From: B2Basics@lists.dynapolis.com on behalf of White, Andrew [AWhite@Logility.com] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:50 PM To: NMM B2Basics Subject: RE: [B2B] does e-purchase differ from e-procurement Importance: High EDI was not extensible nor interoperable. It was closed, clunky and proprietary. XML and the registry services that are being adapted are the antithesis of what EDI was about. Its like looking at how Doctors treated patients with flu (or most other diseases) 200 years, or even 100 years, ago to today. Very, very different but if you told the oldies about the "better" way (which one is "better"?) they would call you a heretic. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: B2Basics@lists.dynapolis.com [mailto:B2Basics@lists.dynapolis.com] On Behalf Of -J-תZ Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 10:45 AM To: NMM B2Basics Subject: RE: [B2B] does e-purchase differ from e-procurement Importance: High There are many influence power behind the standard. From the experience of EDI, the standard of B2B is never successful. How can the interopration be achieved? I think there will be many service providers on the internet to serve the enterprises. One of them will be the conversion of standards. vincent -----Original Message----- >From: B2Basics@lists.dynapolis.com >[mailto:B2Basics@lists.dynapolis.com]On Behalf Of White, Andrew Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 12:21 AM To: NMM B2Basics Subject: RE: [B2B] does e-purchase differ from e-procurement Directly this is a business explanation of why Peer to Peer based business applications and processes will dominate any value chain or web over the medium to long haul. When private marketplaces connect to other private marketplaces, we have hitherto assumed that connectivity was proprietary and therefore costly. With the advent of industry standards (RosettaNet, CPFR, UCCnet, EAN*UCC, CIDX, EIDX and so on), Registry Services (UDDI, RosettaNet, some elements of UCCnet), and the move to interoperability between them (why does a manufacturer buy materials according to one set of XML and sell in another?), then the cost to connect drops quickly - this does not bode well for EAI of course. But this is exactly where P2P is headed as it relates to B2B. And web services play a big part in making this scalable! AW -----Original Message----- From: B2Basics@lists.dynapolis.com [mailto:B2Basics@lists.dynapolis.com] On Behalf Of Katharina Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:24 AM To: NMM B2Basics Subject: re: [B2B] does e-purchase differ from e-procurement Private Marketplace is much more. Hi Marcel, In my opinion e-procurement can be one part of a private marketplace. Although most of the private marketplaces currently available offer only e-procurement capabilities, the possible reach of a private marketplace goes far beyond that. As the major benefit of a private marketplace is the existing relationship of the participants (as they are invited by the company running this marketplace) you can assume a certain degree of trust and commitment among the partners. Therefore, the possible applications of a private marketplace can be information sharing, e.g., rules and regulations or contracts between the partners, collaborative engineering, common project and document management, asset management, logistic services, etc. I personally believe that e-procurement in most cases can be run on public marketplaces or third party platforms if a certain degree of security is provided. However, if you intent to have 'real' collaboration work with exchange of private and very sensitive data, most companies would not rely on external services but build their own marketplace. Consequently, the future may show us the e-Commerce world as a network of linked private marketplaces that share common standards (prerequisite for a private marketplace!) and maybe some functions. Let me know whether this is helpful to you. Katharina View/reply at Private Marketplace is much more -------------------------- This discussion forum is sponsored by Dynapolis Internet Services . Web-based archives are at: http://forums.nmm.com To unsubscribe, send an email to: b2basics-off@lists.dynapolis.com Questions to: listmaster@dynapolis.com -------------------------- -------------------------- This discussion forum is sponsored by Dynapolis Internet Services . 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